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Thursday, June 25, 2015

Medjugorje: Vatican Rejects the Apparitions

Update July 11, 2015: Medjugorje Restrictions Confirmed by Alleged Visionary Marija Pavlovic

This according to Gianluca Barile:

(via Google translate)

The only concession is to Medjugorje, which is recognized as a place of prayer, because God knows where they also collect seeds, the Cardinal explained Gerhard Ludwig Müller, Prefect of the Doctrine of the Faith, during the Plenary Assembly of the Congregation that, yesterday, met for express the authenticity of the alleged apparitions of the Madonna to the six "seers" of this small town in Bosnia-Herzegovina, who claim to have receive periodic messages from "Lady" for 34 years running. For the rest, the trial of the former Holy Office, which is expressed on the basis of the final report of the "Commission Ruini", composed by Benedict XVI to shed light on these phenomena, it was absolutely negative.

"But why so much severity by the Vatican? Firstly for the inconsistency theological message, then the economic interests of the "seers" who have invested in hotels and travel agencies, so the rivalries that have divided some of them and for disobedience is shown to the Bishop of Mostar..." - Gianluka Barile
Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in fact, the "apparitions" do not consist of any supernatural, therefore it is forbidden to the faithful to participate in the "ecstasy" of the six "seers" and the latter is allowed to disclose the texts of the messages that they would receive from the Madonna.

Another NO regards the Medjugorje parish, dedicated to San Giacomo, who will become the Marian Shrine, as it would have liked to own the six "seers". But not only the bishops in their dioceses should not receive the "seers" for public meetings and testimonies, as was the case until now, but merely to ensure accompanied by a priest, the pilgrims who come to Medjugorje. Pilgrims themselves, going to Medjugorje, will not have to recognize, by their presence, the authenticity of the apparitions and avoid any contact with the "seers", focusing only on prayer and on the approach to the sacraments.

But why so much severity by the Vatican? Firstly for the inconsistency theological message, then the economic interests of the "seers" who have invested in hotels and travel agencies, so the rivalries that have divided some of them and for disobedience is shown to the Bishop of Mostar, their diocese, both to the Pope, that through the "Commission Ruini" had ordered him, in vain, to deliver the ten secrets that they would receive from "Our Lady".

One of the key aspects that prompted the Vatican to use an iron fist, is just what the money: they had never seen true visionaries who lucrassero on their own appearances.

Lawful, at this point, doubt: the six "seers" of Medjugorje claim to see and talk to Madonna because the alleged apparitions are real or just to draw the largest number of pilgrims from traveling to their agencies and to be placed in their hotels?

The last word goes to Pope Francis, who soon will issue a special decree, but it is difficult to think that the Pope, may change the conclusions of the Doctrine of the Faith, because many times, himself, expressed more or hand clearly, the skepticism about the quality of what is happening in Medjugorje. It is, therefore, to a resounding "black smoke".

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UPDATE: Click here for an English translation by Richard Chonak.

UPDATE 6/26/15:

From Edward Pentin:
"VATICAN CITY — The Vatican said Friday that contrary to reports in Italian media, no decision has been made regarding certain doctrinal and disciplinary aspects of alleged Marian apparitions at Medjugorje..."
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UPDATE 6/26/15:

From Andrea Tornielli
"No decision has been taken regarding the Medjugorje apparitions, which began in 1981 and have not yet come to an end. The institutional bodies of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith have not yet met to examine the case along with the conclusions of the lengthy and important study carried out by the commission headed by Cardinal Camillo Ruini, which concluded its work last year."
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UPDATE 6/26/15Gianluca Barile responds:

(via Google translation):
"About the article of "Vatican Insider", entitled "Medjugorje, no decision", published in the online edition of today, confirm the guidelines adopted by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in the person of the prefect Gerhard Ludwig Müller , based on the work done in recent years, the so-called "Commission Ruini". Such guidelines have already been delivered to Pope Francis, the only one which takes the final decision, as I have always specified. The meeting and / or the vote of the Plenary of the CDF is a marginal, having been the Pope, the last word. Therefore, the guidelines given to the Holy Father, are as follows: The appearances, and because it is still in progress for some contradictions of the "seers", "not constat de sopranaturalitate"; The "message" of "Our Lady", except those of the very first years, are inconsistent and sometimes trivial, from a theological perspective; The "messages" will no longer be made public, as at present, but be transmitted, in confidence, to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, to be screened; The "visionaries" will retire to private life and not hold more public meetings, both in Medjugorje than anywhere else in the world. To this end, the diocesan Bishops are called to the utmost vigilance; The "seers" have to give up their economic interests in hotels and travel agencies that have emerged during the investigation of the "Commission Ruini", thus stop a blatant conflict of interest; The "seers" should submit without objection and with the utmost obedience to the decisions of the Church; Medjugorje will be recognized as a place of prayer, but the pilgrims, with their presence, will not have to authenticate the "appearances"; The parish of Medjugorje will remain dedicated to St. James and will not become the Marian shrine dedicated to the "Lady".
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UPDATE 6/26/15:

From Diane Korzeniewski: Who needs football when you can watch Italian journalists spar over Medjugorje:
"As Republica also reported (Italian), the biggest clincher in all of this was the money factor and how the alleged visionaries are raking in bucks connected to tourist gigs and hotels.  Along with that are theological inconsistencies and disobedience to the local bishop, to the diocese, and to the Pope himself (when ordered through the commission to disclose the 10 secrets and they did not).

So, everyone can have their fun speculating "when" but the most important part is the "what".  No one seems to be denying some very devastating consequences coming down on the alleged visionaries, and the ripple effect to devotees.

Update: I'd like to remind people to that Tornielli is hardly unbiased in his reporting on anything related to Medjugorje." 
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Friday, June 12, 2015

Medjugorje Decision Will Take ‘Months’, says Vatican Spokesman


By Edward Pentin

(National Catholic Register) VATICAN CITY — The Vatican downplayed intense speculation that Pope Francis will decide very soon on the authenticity of alleged Marian apparitions at Medjugorje, saying it will most probably take months rather than days or weeks.

In comments to the Register June 11, Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said it is “hard to say” when a ruling might be made, but that it’s certainly not likely before the Vatican’s summer break.

He noted that there has not yet been a feria quarta (a monthly meeting of cardinal and bishop members of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) on the subject and that he doubted there would be one before the summer break.

“So if you ask me: days, weeks or months? I think it would be safest to say a few months,” Father Lombardi said, and warned against feeding expectations that an announcement is “very imminent...”


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Wednesday, June 10, 2015

Vatican Cancels Another Medjugorje Event



by Christine Niles

(Church Militant) The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has once again stepped in and canceled another Medjugorje event.

Cardinal Gerhard Müller, Prefect of the CDF, prohibited a parish in Sestola, Italy from holding a prayer meeting scheduled for June 21 where Vicka Ivankovic-Mijatovic, one of the Medjugorje seers, was to offer her testimony and possibly have a vision. Vicka has attended the same event over the past two years and reportedly had visions during her time there.

Last year, Mueller had to remind two Italian dioceses they could not sponsor events for Medjugorje visionaries. In March, in light of a scheduled conference with Ivan Dragicevic at a parish in St. Louis, Missouri, Archbishop Robert Carlson issued the following statement:
I have received a request from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to remind everyone that they are not to participate in events that promote the so-called visionaries of Medjugorje and in particular Mr. Ivan Dragicevic.
And just last month, another scheduled event with Ivan Dragicevic in Padua was called off after Müller intervened.

It was in response to a speaking tour by Dragicevic in 2013 that the CDF issued a letter to be sent to every American diocese forbidding the faithful to participate in any events where "the credibility of such 'apparitions' would be taken for granted." The letter also reaffirmed the findings of the 1991 Yugoslavian Bishops' Conference, which concluded that "it is not possible to state that there were apparitions or supernatural revelations" at Medjugorje.

So far, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has issued letters forbidding Medjugorje-themed events in the United States, Italy and Spain.

For our FAQ on Medjugorje, visit our resource page.

Watch Michael Voris' presentation on Medjugorje here.

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Saturday, March 14, 2015

Medjugorje Warning From Archbishop Carlson


Text:

MEMORANDUM

TO: Priests and Deacons of the Archdiocese of St. Louis
      Members of the Curia

FROM: Archbishop Robert J. Carlson

DATE:  March 3, 2015

RE:  Medjugorje Events

I have received a request from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to remind everyone that they are not to participate in events that promote the so-called visionaries of Medjugorje and in particular Mr. Ivan Dragicevic.  Please make this information available to the Lay Faithful.

There was an event scheduled for March 18th which has now been cancelled.  No other such events should be scheduled.

If you have any questions, please contact the Office of the Archbishop.  Thank you for your assistance.

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Monday, January 20, 2014

Top pope ally Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga urges Vatican doctrine chief Archbishop Gerhard Mueller to loosen up

By Tom Heneghan, Religion Editor

PARIS (Reuters) - An influential aide to Pope Francis criticized the Vatican's doctrinal watchdog on Monday and urged the conservative prelate to be more flexible about reforms being discussed in the Roman Catholic Church.

Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga, the head of a "kitchen cabinet" the pope created to draw up reform proposals, said that Archbishop Gerhard Mueller - who has opposed any loosening of Church rules on divorce - was a classic German theology professor who thought too much in rigid black-and-white terms.

"The world isn't like that, my brother," Rodriguez said in a German newspaper interview, rhetorically addressing Mueller in a rare public criticism among senior Church figures.

"You should be a bit flexible when you hear other voices, so you don't just listen and say, 'here is the wall'," Rodriguez said in an interview with the daily Koelner Stadt-Anzeiger.

Rodriguez, archbishop of the Honduran capital Tegucigalpa, did not cite any possible reforms in particular but said the pope's critics, such as those upset by his attacks on capitalism, were "people who don't understand reality."

Former Pope Benedict picked Mueller in 2012 to head the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), the successor office to the Inquisition. Benedict ran that office as a powerful and feared guardian of Church orthodoxy for 24 years as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, until he was elected pope in 2005.

But its influence has waned under Francis, who soon after his March 2013 election was reported as telling visiting South American priests and nuns not to worry if the CDF wrote to them criticizing what they were doing.

NO TO CHANGING DIVORCE RULE

In an article in the Vatican daily last October, Mueller firmly rejected growing demands for divorced and remarried Catholics to be reinstated as full members of the Church.

Catholics who divorce and remarry in a civil ceremony are excluded from communion because the Church teaches that Jesus declared marriage an indissoluble bond.

With divorce on the rise, more Catholics are asking Rome to show mercy for them. German bishops have been in the forefront of reform thinking and one archdiocese even published guidelines on how to readmit them, which prompted Mueller's article.

The Vatican is due to consider reforming its rules on divorce at a worldwide synod of bishops next October.

Mueller has also strongly defended Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst, who reaped stiff criticism from German Catholics and the title "luxury bishop" in the media after it was revealed he spent at least 30 million euros ($40.69 million) on a new residence complex.

Tebartz-van Elst's grand plans were so far from the modest approach favoured by the Argentine-born pontiff that Rome sent an envoy to inspect his diocese and later sent him off to a monastery for a leave of absence pending a final decision.

Rodriguez did not think Tebartz-van Elst would return to Limburg and said Latin Americans like himself and the pope found it hard to understand spending so much money for opulent features such as a 15,000-euro free-standing bath tub.

"For most people, a shower and a toilet are enough," he said. "They're enough for the pope in his three-room apartment too." ($1 = 0.7373 euros)

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Friday, October 5, 2012

Archbishop Müller on the SSPX and His Controversial Writings

By EDWARD PENTIN  

(National Catholic Register)  In the second part of this interview with Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller (Part 1 can be read here), the new CDF prefect discusses the latest on efforts to bring the Society of St. Pius X back into full communion with the Church, the current situation regarding the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, and responds to what some saw as controversies over some of his previous writings on the perpetual virginity of the Blessed Virgin Mary and on the Eucharist.

What stage have we reached in the dialogue between the Vatican and the Society of St. Pius X?

I wouldn’t call it a dialogue between two Church partners. This was a brotherly colloquium to overcome difficulties with an authentic interpretation of Catholic doctrine. This authentic interpretation is guaranteed by the Pope. The SSPX must accept the Holy Father, the Pope, as the visible head of the Church. They have a great respect for Tradition. They must, therefore, accept the position of the Pope as stated in the First Vatican Council. They must also accept the doctrinal pronouncements made since the Second Vatican Council, which have been authorized officially by the Pope.

Part of the problem is that, after 30 or more years of separation from the Church, some groups or persons can be very closed in their own dynamic, in their own groups, and very fixed on these points. I believe that these questions will be resolved in the long term.

Is it possible for reconciliation with Bishop Richard Williamson within the society?

Williamson is a separate problem to this reconciliation process. It is simply unacceptable that a Christian or even  more a bishop — of course he is not a Catholic bishop, as a bishop is only Catholic when he is in full communion with the Pope, the Successor of Peter, which Williamson is not — denies all that the Nazis had done against the Jewish people, their exterminations. How is it possible to be so cold-hearted about this? It is absolutely unacceptable, but this is a separate problem.

They [SSPX] need to accept the complete doctrine of the Catholic Church: the confession of faith, the Creed, and also accept the magisterium of the Pope as it is authentically interpreted. That is necessary. They also need to accept some forms of development in the liturgy. The Holy Father recognized the perennial validity of the extraordinary form of the liturgy, but they also must accept that the new ordinary form of the liturgy, developed after the Council, is valid and legitimate.

Some argue the Second Vatican Council was merely pastoral and, therefore, not binding. How do you respond to this?

The problem here is the interpretation of the word “pastoral.” All councils are pastoral, in that they are concerned with the work of the Church — but this does not mean that they are merely “poetic” and therefore not binding. Vatican II is an official ecumenical council, and all that was said in the Council is therefore binding for everyone, but at different levels. We have dogmatic constitutions, and you are certainly obliged to accept them if you are Catholic. Dei Verbum discusses divine Revelation; it speaks about the Trinitarian God revealing himself and about the Incarnation as fundamental teaching. These are not only pastoral teachings — they are basic elements of our Catholic faith.

Some practical elements contained in the various documents could be changed, but the body of the doctrine of the Council is binding for everyone.

In view of all this, are you nevertheless confident and optimistic there will be reconciliation with the Society of St. Pius X?

I’m always confident in our faith and optimistic. We have to pray for goodwill and for unity in the Church. The SSPX is not the only breakaway group in the Church. There are worse ones on the opposite side, too. These movements are worse because they are often denying essentials of Christianity. We must work for unity, and so it is also my task to invite all to come back into full communion with the Catholic Church, which is led by the supreme shepherd, the pope — who is the Vicar of Christ.

If they do come back, what positive aspects could they bring to the Church?

They could underline what Tradition is, but they also must become broader in their perspective, because the apostolic Tradition of the Church is not only about a few elements. The Tradition of the Church is large and wide. On the other hand, there must also be a renewal in the celebration of the liturgy, because we have had a lot of abuses of the liturgy, which have damaged the faith of many people.

Could they perhaps help correct some of the abuses?

That is not their task, but ours. One extreme cannot be the equivalent of the other. The extremes must be corrected by the center...  (continued)

Friday, July 20, 2012

Proposal and Counter-Proposals for Pope Benedict and the SSPX


From Father John Zuhlsdorf at What Does The Prayer Really Say?:
I was sent a link to an article in The Remnant on the SSPX situation.  The article contains the following statements:
Instead of harassing Bishop Fellay to sign a doctrinal preamble, the Vatican should require every superior, university president and ordinary to sign the above quoted statement to remain in office.  I sense there would be quite a few vacancies as a result!
First, the Holy See is hardly “harassing” Bp. Fellay to sign the Doctrinal Preamble.  But I do like the idea proposed.

If the SSPX has to make some sort of Adhesio Fidei, then let’s have everyone make one if they have some office or position in the Church or her institutions!

I remember when I was in seminary in 80′s and the Holy See determined that seminary faculty would have to take an oath which involved little more than the Creed, one prof, a rather unstable and less than intelligent heretic actually burst into tears in front of our class and raved about “the Kremlin on the Tiber”.  Thanks be to God, those days are pretty much over now.

Another statement:
If Benedict XVI really wants to foster restoration of the Church from the post-Conciliar crisis he should simply accept the SSPX’s beautiful declaration of Faith and unilaterally declare the Society in communion with the Church and on his own authority grant to them jurisdiction directly from himself throughout the world to continue their work.  That may sound impossible but recall that the Society has just offered up a twelve-million rosary crusade for the Church.  Nothing is impossible for God and He can refuse no request of His Blessed Mother.
Of course it is not impossible.  The Supreme Pontiff has complete and universal jurisdiction.   I, too, would rejoice if the Pope simply did that and resolved the situation.  But he isn’t going to do that.  Pope’s don’t submit to renegades.  For all of their solid doctrinal statements and their zeal for souls, they don’t obey the Roman Pontiff whose authority they say they uphold.

What I would like to see, and I think Benedict would like to see, a demonstration that the bishops and priests of the SSPX will actually submit to his authority and obey him and those to whom he gives his own authority in the Roman Congregations and work with local bishops who are tasked with the pastoral governance of dioceses.

Here’s my proposal.  Let’s set all the Preambles and Declarations aside for a moment.  For the beginning of the Year of Faith, let the SSPX, the whole shootin’ match, gather en masse in Rome.  Let them ask for an audience with the Holy Father.  Let them – one by one – kneel before the Pope.  With their folded hands between Holy Father’s hands as if at an ordination, let each one of them promise to obey him and his successors.

I’ll be that would do it.

Of course on my planet, they would then go in solemn procession into the Basilica of St. Peter, with the Roman Pontiff raised on the sedia gestatoria, and celebrate Pontifical Mass, the SSPXers serving, their choir showing the Sistina how its done, etc.

“But Father! But Father!” some might be saying.  “Kneel down?  Grovel!  Never!”

When I worked in an office of the Holy See I heard stories from the old timers about how when the Pope’s secretary would phone, saying that the Pope was coming on the line, they would kneel down just to take his phone call.  I remember watching how, during an audience with John Paul II, the great Msgr. Luigi de Magistris knelt down the moment the Pope entered the room and would not rise until the Pope raised him.
Yes.  Kneel down before the Vicar of Christ and promise to obey him.  I would.

As a matter of fact, I did.
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012

Monsignor Nicola Bux's letter to Bishop Fellay and the Priests of the SSPX

From RORATE CÆLI:

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Your Excellency,
Most dear Brothers,

Christian brotherhood is stronger than flesh and blood because it offers us, thanks to the divine Eucharist, a foretaste of heaven.

Christ invited us to experience communion, this is what our "I" is made of. Communion means loving one's neighbor a priori, because we have the one Savior in common with him. Based on this fact, communion is ready for every sacrifice in the name of unity; and this unity must be visible, as the last petition addressed by Our Lord to his Father teaches us - "ut unum sint, ut credat mundus" -, because this is the decisive testimony of Christ's friends.

It is undeniable that numerous facts of Vatican II and of the period that followed it, related to the human dimension of this event, have represented true calamities and have caused intense pain to many great Churchmen. But God does not allow His Holy Church to reach self-destruction... (continued)


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